SPS Governance Proposal - DHF Agreement
This is a SPS DAO proposal request from @lordbutterfly.
I have been considering for the last few weeks how we can get the Splinterlands DHF proposal to pass.
What I came up with is a mutually beneficial agreement for both sides with parameters set based on discussions between Hive and SPL stakeholders.
The goal was to find a common ground that would secure votes from the Hive side and secure DHF funding for the Splinterlands side.
What this proposal is not:
This proposal is not another chance for everybody to voice why they think the SPL DHF proposal should or should not be funded. We did that already. Remember?
What it lead to is the proposal being short of passing the return proposal and not getting funding while its slowly expiring.
You are all right and make amazing arguments. Splinterlands should get funding and Splinterlands shouldnt get funding..
So lets put that to rest. Anyone starting these arguments will get a nice little dunce cap in the comment section from me.
Youve been warned. 😉
What this proposal is:
This proposal presents a clear path to receiving the wanted funding while satisfying both sides in the equation.
The only question the SPL community voting on this SPL proposal needs to ask themselves is:
Do I want to get the DHF proposal funded or not.
The parameters below will not change nor will they be adjusted as they have been discussed in length to meet what those providing the Hive vote see as equal reciprocation. The parameters below were also proposed and agreed on by the other side as an amount that doesn't pose any significant risk to the SPL DAO as it is in most part simply a value transfer.
If this does not pass, anyone attempting to change the agreement is free to do so on their own while the DHF proposal is in the process of expiring.
Now is the chance for everyone to have a say if they agree with this or not.
THE PROPOSED AGREEMENT:
The SPL DAO will stake 1 million HIVE for a minimum of 24 months. (Unless there is some systemic danger for SPL and the funds are needed asap). Currently held HBD will not be used to buy the Hive. Only ETH from treasury and or USDT/USDC. The staking will happen over the course of 3 weeks to assure, the unlikely event of return proposal being raised again during that time, doesn't happen.
The Hive purchase price will be set at the market price in 2 weeks when the SPL DAO proposal finishes its approval process, at 1 mil HIVE bought if price is not higher than 25 cents. If Hive price is above 25 cents, the max purchase in USD terms will be 250000 USD. (two hundred and fifty thousand dollars)130k USDT or 130k USDC will be moved into the Hive stablecoin - HBD via Hive conversion. HBD has "basically" unlimited liquidity and this is a very easy step to take. There are no specific requests regarding this other than holding HBD instead of USDT in that amount. Spending it is ok.
SPL would add on all DHF related marketing spending on every promo material, video, graphic, (where possible) a small print "Powered by Hive" along with Hive branding in a visible place inside the game website. Size unspecified.
Full transparency on how the DHF received funds are used will be provided by the Splinterlands company.
Assurance the Splinterlands company will not request more funding from the DHF unless there is an agreement that this current marketing campaign is deemed as a success by the stakeholders providing their votes to SPL proposal in the amounts specified below.
The Splinterlands DHF proposal will be voted in the minimum amount of 4 million HP from Hive stakeholders. Add to this the 1 million purchased Hive by SPL DAO.
@cryptoeater, as the largest SPS stakeholder will provide trading and transfer services for bought Hive and HBD. The staked amount will be added to the @sps.dao account to follow the @steemmonsters account's governance voting and curation trails. The HBD will be bought by 3.5 day conversion from Hive.
In case the Splinterlands proposal is unvoted and is not receiving funding, the SPL DAO is only obligated to purchase/keep the percentage amount of Hive/HBD equal to the percentage of the HBD received from the date of this agreement commencing.
Why the Splinterlands stakeholders should support this proposal:
- Moving ETH from treasury into Hive and USDT into HBD is a value transfer. Treasury portfolio value stays exactly the same.
- Moving ETH into Hive stake provides 10% + 3.3% APR + the requested DHF proposal amount.
- Receiving the funds in the amount of circa 433k USD as is active currently in the DHF proposal.
- Closer integration with Hive and more say in both governance and DHF spending for the SPL community.
- Assurance that the proposal passes return proposal right away instead of hoping it might in the future, if it ever does, when the amount is far lower.
Why the Hive stakeholders should support the SPL DHF proposal if this SPL DAO proposal passes:
- Net negative financial effect for Hive becomes close to ZERO. At these prices 310k USD enters Hive. 430k HBD is paid out to Splinterlands. 1 million Hive is removed from circulation. 130k USDT buys Hive and converts into HBD reducing Hive inflation.
- This is the first and only time anyone has offered purchasing almost the equal $ value amount of Hive assets as they are requesting from the DHF.
NOT A SINGLE OTHER DHF PROPOSAL comes even close to this value, financially speaking, for Hive stakeholders. This sets a precedent and should be fully and entirely encouraged and supported in every way. - The SPL DHF proposal is close to passing as is. By refusing to vote if the SPL DAO proposal passes, Hive is put under great opportunity risk as no assurance of Hive/DHF purchase is made in that case.
- Added promotion for Hive through SPL marketing activities funded via DHF.
Final thoughts:
This is the middle ground where no one loses and we all win. Dont get me wrong. There is risk. There is always risk. We cannot anticipate the movement of the wider market going into the future but at this point in time, which is all that matters, this is a win-win situation for both sides.
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If this all works out.. You all owe me a bear at Hivefest...
Oh you think it was a grammar mistake and I meant beer? No... Bears. Real ones. A lot of them. A whole flock of bears is what I want.
But if you cant find them, a beer will do.😉
Update 8/21/24
Update 8/21/24 to clarify the wording in previous update.
Update 8/21/24
Good luck to everyone.
Thanks for the time to work all this out @lordbutterfly. I will vote for it and appreciate your efforts to find a good solution.
I hope others share your sentiment.
Your time & energy sacrifice mediating this issue is greatly appreciated 🙏
A solid plan. You'll have my support.
Brilliant proposal, got my vote
I believe this proposal means we are leaning on our knees for HIVE to help us. We already did enough. Let's be proud of ourselves sometimes. And have some dignity.
And here come the guys that think SPL doesnt deserve to get funded. They will make their own arguments and you can argue all day long.
The matter of the fact is that the proposal is not funded. I found a way to get it funded. Here it is. Take it as you wish.
Thank you for your work on this. It has my vote.
I am not a fan of this mentality. If a proposal doesn’t pass the return, that means it was voted to not pass.
Encouraging removing votes from the return to get it to pass is tearing apart the governance to squeeze something in without the proper amount of votes while allowing other proposals that also failed to get carried in with it.
This mentality is not healthy to the Hive ecosystem.
Thats why it says:
"in cases where low quality projects would not be getting funding due to such unvoting of the return proposal."
This applies only to the set few agreeing to this.
So if those agreeing to this deem unvoting the return proposal as harming the system they reserve the right not to unvote the return.
The proper amount of votes is 1 more vote than the return proposal.
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don't forget to get rid of your red dot quickly!
😂. done!
Seems reasonable to me, I hope this achieves funding.
Always happy when I see someone finding a compromise instead of insisting on a side. Thank you!
Its never an easy thing.
Love this solution! It has my support.
This is reasonable and fair deal. I'll vote for it.
Thank you for your support!
I am appreciative of the whole Splinterlands community for this overwhelming positive response towards the proposal.
I've just sent over my bear. He and I are both on board.
I don’t think they allow bears on planes. You might need to source it locally.
yeah they still allow them, just costly 😆
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[-]acidyo (82) 3 months ago
Haha at "I shouldn't make commercial" :D Maybe something to worry about when you have more youtube subscribers! Quite interesting content though, these things should get more subs on there and here.
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[-]gogreenbuddy (67) 3 months ago
Yeah thought that was funny too
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HE MAKES CURATION REWARDS WITH ALL HIS ALT ACCOUNTS BURNING TOKENS LIKE THIS DOES NOT TAKE OLD TOKENS IT MINTS NEW ONES AND BURNS THEM
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cwow stop the drink and drugs
Stop supporting the fake Hive police who do nothing but exploit Hive
Many people on Hive will never get to spend any of their Hive as it may become illegal in certain countries
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Zac the man with the scam plan
lol the Marky mark keeps dreaming
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Hello Marky, are you ok do you need help, are you facing mental health challenges?
It's crucial to seek help. Continual dishonesty can erode trust and your mental health. Downvotes do not have an impact on us, but our consistent sharing of accurate information is key to us.
Marky stop getting butt fucked LOL.
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[-]themarkymark (80) yesterday (edited)
Farming? Show me where I am farming, I post like one post a month at this point, and all buildawhale is burned. As you say transactions don’t lie. And don't say curation rewards, I'd get those no matter what I vote on and if you expect I will be the only person on this blockchain to forfeit curation rewards, you are dumber than we know you are.
https://hive.blog/hive-167922/@bpcvoter1/seq7ok
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cwow stop the drink and drugs
Can't you see the problems on Hive?
Hive dropping to $0.000
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LOL
It seems like THEMARKYMARK is dealing with some personal drama and mental issues, which might be causing them to spam us and others with baby pics, GIFs, and questionable content he's been doing the same for years. The fun doesn't stop there, as this seems to be a recurring theme with multiple online personas. The real question is, do we want to trust these drama-magnets with our hard-earned funds or any significant influence on Hive?
On Hive a significant issue exists with automatic upvotes consistently rewarding the same individuals day in and day out
We want to address the issue of downvoting. It has caused pain to many people, and we want to make sure it doesn't happen again reply to @jacobtothe
On Hive a significant issue exists with automatic upvotes consistently rewarding the same individuals day in and day out
We hope that those who genuinely care about Hive will reconsider their actions, as continuing down this path could inadvertently harm innocent users who are unaware of these issues
lol the Marky mark keeps dreaming
Marks dream
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themarkymark (80)in FreeCompliments • 2 days ago
No.
I downvote spammers, you are a spammer, you get no monies. It’s very simple.
In the meantime go get some help. You obviously have some issues going on.
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GET HELP
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[-]themarkymark (80) 4 hours ago
I have a personal chef, maid, and a captain for my yacht. What other help do I need?
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@gogreenbuddy THIS MAN IS A TOP HIVE FARMER AND SCAMMER SOME OF HIS OTHER ACCOUNTS @THEMARKYMARK @BUILDAWHALE @USAINVOTE @UPMYVOTE @LEOVOTER @IPROMOTE @PUNKTEAM @CWOW2 @STEMGEEKS AND 100s more
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Upon examining our posts, you will notice they have been downvoted, and we've been labeled as scammers and spammers, which we find amusing. We consistently share new content
https://hive.blog/a-i/@worldhelper/chatgpt-100percent-hp
it's so, so concerning to see Blocktrades delegating 2+ million Hive power to Buildawhale, and Buildawhale is downvoting legitimate content
I have no idea why my post receives a downvote from you. Will not ask for you to remove it, I just want to know if there was reason behind it cause I believe I put more effort in creating my post compared to many of my pears due to the following reasons:
It was simple editing but I have created all my thumbnails, dividers and footers and properly sourced my images.
Multiple markdowns were used to make it as reader friendly as possible on hive.blog, peakd, ecency and inleo.
Contains 1.3k words that is written by me.
The battle I post was manually played by me and is on modern league were bots are banned so both my battle and my post was created with pure human output.
Uses #hive hastag whenever I post it to web2 platforms, just like my previous post, in an attempt to increase visibility to hive.
https://x.com/crimepoet1/status/1827104965325942960
It was not a life-changing amount but it was discouraging for me as a creator that my post getting downvoted but if it was made as criticism on my content, will use it to improve its quality. I hope you do not take it personal.
regards.
Let's delve into the Builda whale farm on the Hive, Gogreenbuddy, who is also colloquially known as the Marky mark USAINVOTE UPMYVOTE IPROMOTE and 100's more if not thousands this individual has asserted that his intentions behind this initiative are driven by a desire to contribute positively to the community. Now, let's explore what he is earning on a monthly basis from this venture. income is said to be generated through the use of multiple alternative accounts, which he utilizes to cast votes in favor of his own shit content. The community seems to have mixed feelings about this practice many are scared to speak up.
Are you ready to delve deeper into this topic and uncover more insights? If so, let's proceed. It's time to wake up and gain a clearer understanding of the situation at hand.
Buildawhale
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On Hive a significant issue exists with automatic upvotes consistently rewarding the same individuals day in and day out
We want to address the issue of downvoting. It has caused pain to many people, and we want to make sure it doesn't happen again reply to @jacobtothe
On Hive a significant issue exists with automatic upvotes consistently rewarding the same individuals day in and day out
We hope that those who genuinely care about Hive will reconsider their actions, as continuing down this path could inadvertently harm innocent users who are unaware of these issues
lol the Marky mark keeps dreaming
There's been a notable increase in frustration and concern among many users
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Consider revising the value plan, as it's not providing significant benefits to HIVE
The Value Plan, as it stands, seems to be a one-sided relationship with the HIVE platform, where the benefits are one-way
Actions indeed speak louder than words, a fact we've all observed individuals may talk a good game, a whole lot of shit, but their actions often expose their genuine nature LOL
We consider it unwise to engage in harmful actions, even if you think you can escape the repercussions
https://hive.blog/politics/@jacobtothe/re-bpcvoter1-shjdc8
The Hive Police aka Hivewatchers, are the real heroes of Hive LOL, aren't they?
Feast your eyes on Hive's trending page, what a load of trash
LoL it's the Hivewatchers Hive Police, dishing out orders like a bakery LOL! Folks, do what you want with your Hive power, just as you please. And you, Hivewatchers, downvote away, but remember, judgment day's coming
Harry fam We're just here, laughing at the shenanigans on Hive! Sure, our content's getting downvoted, but hey, it's all part of the game LOL
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it's so, so concerning to see Blocktrades delegating 2+ million Hive power to Buildawhale, and Buildawhale is downvoting legitimate content
We began sharing factual information following unwarranted downvotes on Hive it's all in the transactions
Upon examining our posts, you will notice they have been downvoted, and we've been labeled as scammers and spammers, which we find amusing. We consistently share new content
Once again, we ask why is our legit content being downvoted on Hive and what is the reason behind it. Hivewatchers ADM spaminator steemcleaners guiltyparties logic
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This solution works well and represents a reasonable compromise. Thanks to everyone involved in creating it.
Would I prefer not to have that condition attached? Absolutely. However, I'm not opposed to staking Hive. Currently, our ETH is just sitting idle, not generating any yield or benefits. By staking Hive, we gain some governance power and a small yield, including curation rewards.
Overall, I believe this is a good way to foster relations between the Hive and Splinterlands community, because simply put we need each other to survive.
Some people (myself included at some point) believed the Hive community owed Splinterlands for simply existing on Hive, but the truth is both entities make each other better. Splinterlands would not exist if it wasn't for Hive, and the witnesses that actively confirm blocks. Hive would likely have a much smaller community without Splinterlands.
This is clearly a mutually beneficial relationship so I personally see no issue with the SPS DAO having more exposure to the performance of Hive, thus aligning incentives more closely.
Notes:
If I vote for the SPL DHF proposal at any point, that is not an indication of myself agreeing to any of the terms presented here: https://peakd.com/spsproposal/@clayboyn/sps-governance-proposal-dhf-agreement
Ofc not. This is certain stakeholder specific.
There's some other words here I don't like, and I want to make it clear any decision I make has nothing to do with this. And that's where I'm leaving it. Nobody here wants to read another goddamn nonames essay lol
What's presented here and the results later don't have any impact on whether I say yes, no, maybe, maybe not. Everyone else is free to have their fun.
Will be updated soon to be more specific.
My vote is only worth 91k HP and some change. It's not a big deal. And my opinions are worthless on this matter.
I'll just say this. I've decided to go ahead and vote for the SPL DHF proposal. But not because I'm wowed by the potential of shiny trinkets. SPL can't buy my support. I don't play the game and I want nothing to do with it. All these money moves; I won't feel those ripples. That's a drop in the ocean. I'm putting eight wasted years of my life into pushing a button to support what appears to be a mess. So I guess SPL and I got something in common. But doing this does nothing for me. Enjoy.
Great work @lordbutterfly.
This is all completely reasonable on all sides. I have faith that the efforts of folks such as yourself and the others who’ve been putting in time & efforts to bring attention to this…will see it bear fruit. VoNaK homie!
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I was on board with this until this section
"130k USDT or 130k USDC will be moved into the Hive stablecoin - HBD via Hive conversion. HBD has "basically" unlimited liquidity and this is a very easy step to take. There are no specific requests regarding this other than holding HBD instead of USDT in that amount. Spending it is ok."
Too much A$$ kissing and I trust USDT and USDC more then I trust HBD to hold it's peg value. Thus it's too much of a risk. I don't get why this was thrown into the mix it makes no sense.
The other negative to this is we are "buying" our votes which is a little weird and there's no guarantee that the proposal would hold funding. Someone could easily remove their vote from SPL and put it on the return proposal so we are doing ALL of this buying of an asset that doesn't believe in supporting one of their most popular apps.
This also doesn't address the core issues with the proposal and that was mainly people seeing no clear plan with the "marketing" marketing proposals have never done well and this proposal would have been better IMO if it was focused on how we are integrating onboarding to hive as well from the players coming into the ecosystem. Because lets be honest a lot of players don't blog, thread or anything like that they most likely don't really know they have a hive account. They can primarily do everything they need to via Binance, pancake swap, wax or internal of the game and never touch hive.
HBD conversions gets you always 1 USD worth of Hive.
You trust a centralized entity thats behind USDT more than the decentralized blockchain you personally own?
I mean, to me it seems like a no-brainer that reserve is held in HBD. Or have we stopped caring about this stuff.
Staked Hive has no belief system, its not an entity, its not human, its not anything at all.
The proposal has 29million HP voting and is short a tiny amount. Hivers exist and you cannot say they dont care about Splinterlands precisely because so many voted.
You can point fingers at certain whales and name them easily that wont support it. But you cant point your finger at Hive.
Wow, thanks a lot for putting this up and bringing everybody together for this compromise. I can't begin to imagine how many hours of your live where poured into this - getting everybody's opinion, finding the middle ground everybody would agree to, that's a lot of work!
I'm hopeful we can pass this and have an agreement that helps both ecosystems to thrive because of it.
It's about time that a great game on a great blockchain and that blockchain started supporting and helping each other, so this is a really good move.
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This is a wonderful proposal and I believe a win-win.
If we, the Splinterlands Community do no support the Blockchain we utilize... why should they support us?
"Because Splinterlands is the blah blah blah"... You know what that sounds like?
America.
And how do we look in other peoples eyes?
Investing in our native blockchain is brilliant and simple - and simple is often the most effective.
Further - I believe this will help encourage the Splinterlands players to be more active on Hive via Peak'd and other methods.
After a nice conversation with AZ, I bought and powered up $250 of Hive and plan to add to that regularly now. I see where we, the players, need to interact with Hive more than just playing Splinterlands if we hope to have good relations with the other Hive community members.
While I am still learning a lot about how to do that effectively... I took my first steps and believe this to be a great way for Splinterlands to take a BIG step in that direction.
BONUS: 1M Powered Up Hive will allow for greater upvote potential from Splinterlands to encourage their Players to participate on Hive as well - including on Power Up days :)
Great suggestion @lordbutterfly I will most certainly vote for this with my little but growing supply of HP!
Cheers 🍻,
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[-]bpcvoter2 (-5)(1) 4 days ago · Will be hidden due to low rating
NO DOWNVOTES FOR MARKY MARK'S SELF VOTING !WEED
https://hive.blog/life/@slobberchops/re-gogreenbuddy-sdr1wb
https://www.publish0x.com/the-dark-side-of-hive
https://www.reddit.com/r/stoptheabuseonhive/
https://peakd.com/hive-164833/@bilpcoinbpc/you-have-all-witnessed-this-account-being-downvoted-to-a-negative-reputation-for-no-reason
SHAME ON YOU ALL SAD PEOPLE WHO SCAM LIE AND FARM HIVE AND HIVERS
[-]acidyo (82) 3 months ago
Haha at "I shouldn't make commercial" :D Maybe something to worry about when you have more youtube subscribers! Quite interesting content though, these things should get more subs on there and here.
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[-]gogreenbuddy (67) 3 months ago
Yeah thought that was funny too
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gogreenbuddy: $4.47
acidyo: $0.06
holbein81: $0.01
koleso: -$0.00
https://hive.blog/life/@gogreenbuddy/i-had-to-give-up-on-my-gabion-fencing-too-much-work
@themarkymark @buildawhale @upmyvote @ipromote @gogreenbuddy @usainvote @punkteam @makerhacks @apeminingclub @leovoter @blockheadgamds @rollingbones farm @cwow2 @solominer @steevc @adm @abit @theycallmedan @dalz @abh12345
HE MAKES CURATION REWARDS WITH ALL HIS ALT ACCOUNTS BURNING TOKENS LIKE THIS DOES NOT TAKE OLD TOKENS IT MINTS NEW ONES AND BURNS THEM
https://hive.blog/hive-167922/@bilpcoinbpc/the-power
https://www.bilpcoin.com/hive-167922/@bilpcoinbpc/the-power
https://www.bilpcoin.com/hive-167922/@bpcvoter1/response-4-to-themarkymark-marcus-buildawhale-usainvote-ipomote-leovoter-gogreenbuddy-and-over-100-of-his-alt-accounts
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cwow stop the drink and drugs
Stop supporting the fake Hive police who do nothing but exploit Hive
Many people on Hive will never get to spend any of their Hive as it may become illegal in certain countries
https://peakd.com/hive-158694/@bilpcoinbpc/marks-dream
Zac the man with the scam plan
lol the Marky mark keeps dreaming
GET HELP STOP CRYING
WE CAN NOT HELP YOU
ARE YOU OK
Hello Marky, are you ok do you need help, are you facing mental health challenges?
It's crucial to seek help. Continual dishonesty can erode trust and your mental health. Downvotes do not have an impact on us, but our consistent sharing of accurate information is key to us.
Marky stop getting butt fucked LOL.
https://hive.blog/computers/@themarkymark/re-bpcvoter1-sfi1bm
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[-]themarkymark (80) yesterday (edited)
Farming? Show me where I am farming, I post like one post a month at this point, and all buildawhale is burned. As you say transactions don’t lie. And don't say curation rewards, I'd get those no matter what I vote on and if you expect I will be the only person on this blockchain to forfeit curation rewards, you are dumber than we know you are.
https://hive.blog/hive-167922/@bpcvoter1/seq7ok
https://www.bilpcoin.com/undefined/@bpcvoter1/response-3-to-themarkymark-marcus-buildawhale-usainvote-ipomote-leovoter-gogreenbuddy-and-over-100-of-his-alt-accounts
https://hive.blog/hive-193084/@bpcvoter1/response-2-to-themarkymark-marcus-buildawhale-usainvote-ipomote-leovoter-gogreenbuddy-and-over-100-of-his-alt-accounts
!LOL !WEED !GIF !MEME
https://hive.blog/hive-167922/@themarkymark/re-bpcvoter1-sepr9c
21 hours ago in LeoFinance by themarkymark (80)
https://hive.blog/hive-167922/@bpcvoter1/senppv
https://hive.blog/life/@anomadsoul/re-gogreenbuddy-seqf1p
https://hive.blog/hive-104387/@bpcvoter3/se19g2
Downvoted BY HIVE FARMERS
https://hive.blog/life/@slobberchops/re-gogreenbuddy-sdr1wb
https://hive.blog/hive-167922/@themarkymark/re-bpcvoter1-setz65
Response 4 to themarkymark marcus, buildawhale usainvote ipomote leovoter gogreenbuddy, and over 100 of his alt accounts
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cwow stop the drink and drugs
Can't you see the problems on Hive?
Hive dropping to $0.000
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LOL
It seems like THEMARKYMARK is dealing with some personal drama and mental issues, which might be causing them to spam us and others with baby pics, GIFs, and questionable content he's been doing the same for years. The fun doesn't stop there, as this seems to be a recurring theme with multiple online personas. The real question is, do we want to trust these drama-magnets with our hard-earned funds or any significant influence on Hive?
On Hive a significant issue exists with automatic upvotes consistently rewarding the same individuals day in and day out
We want to address the issue of downvoting. It has caused pain to many people, and we want to make sure it doesn't happen again reply to @jacobtothe
On Hive a significant issue exists with automatic upvotes consistently rewarding the same individuals day in and day out
We hope that those who genuinely care about Hive will reconsider their actions, as continuing down this path could inadvertently harm innocent users who are unaware of these issues
lol the Marky mark keeps dreaming
Marks dream
https://www.publish0x.com/the-dark-side-of-hive/the-marky-mark-marcus-its-clear-youre-deeply-engaged-in-farm-xmjodol
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themarkymark (80)in FreeCompliments • 2 days ago
No.
I downvote spammers, you are a spammer, you get no monies. It’s very simple.
In the meantime go get some help. You obviously have some issues going on.
2 days ago in FreeCompliments by themarkymark (80)$0.00
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[-]bpcvoter1 (-4)(1) yesterday · Will be hidden due to low rating
GET HELP
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[-]themarkymark (80) 4 hours ago
I have a personal chef, maid, and a captain for my yacht. What other help do I need?
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https://hive.blog/hive-140084/@themarkymark/re-bpcvoter1-sg5l3x
@gogreenbuddy THIS MAN IS A TOP HIVE FARMER AND SCAMMER SOME OF HIS OTHER ACCOUNTS @THEMARKYMARK @BUILDAWHALE @USAINVOTE @UPMYVOTE @LEOVOTER @IPROMOTE @PUNKTEAM @CWOW2 @STEMGEEKS AND 100s more
https://www.publish0x.com/the-dark-side-of-hive
Upon examining our posts, you will notice they have been downvoted, and we've been labeled as scammers and spammers, which we find amusing. We consistently share new content
https://hive.blog/a-i/@worldhelper/chatgpt-100percent-hp
it's so, so concerning to see Blocktrades delegating 2+ million Hive power to Buildawhale, and Buildawhale is downvoting legitimate content
Thank you for participating in SPS DAO Governance @clayboyn!
You can place or monitor SPS Stake Weighted votes for and against this proposal at the link below:
Link to this Pre-Proposal
Updated At: 2024-08-22 01:14 UTC
I like it, but the part of this written before "THE PROPOSED AGREEMENT" seems petty, unprofessional, and unneeded.
But I think, unless someone puts up good arguments, this is easy to support.
I am not sure if something like this would be clarity, just so it is not open to interpretation, if I has a large hive holder, that would be the part that concerned me?
"(Unless there is some systemic danger for SPL and the funds are needed asap)"
I always thought we should have asked for more but offered more of a commitment too, but I like this.
Oh yes my friend. It was absolutely needed. ;)
The conflict of whether SPL deserves funding or not is a waste of time, we have to leave that aside and continue pushing towards a healthy relationship of both parties, the reality of this, is that both benefit from each other and whoever thinks otherwise to this knows nothing, besides conflict does not solve anything, we have to rather solve problems with ideas like the one proposed by @lordbutterfly, so, let's support, everyone wins at this point.
It is obvious that I will support this, in good time, both "Hive and Splinterlands" have to grow in this bull market that is coming hard as the strong hands accumulate, so, let's go all in.
I know I don't make a difference but I'm voting against this.
Do I want the DHF proposal to get funded? Of course, I do! But not like this. I won't even compare this to other proposals that have passed and didn't have to do anything.
In order to get $500k (which is way less now and by the time this passes and it finally starts paying it will likely be just $400k), we have to spend likely over $180k (including fees) in ETH and stablecoins to buy a coin that hasn't been this low since early 2021? ETH is regarded by most as the second best cryptocurrency. Some even consider it better than bitcoin. Sure, ETH is down from 2 recent highs this year but it is still up from the start of the year. Hive has lost about 50% since the beginning of the year! This transaction alone has the potential of costing the Splinterlands ecosystem more than the $400k that are going to be received. I believe it would be better to have the DAO provide the fund directly to the Splinterlands team, when needed, using mostly stablecoins, or ETH if we found a good opportunity.
Matt asked for $500k because that's what he needed. With this, he gets close to $400k. That's not a small difference. What if that is not enough for what he wants to do?
And why are we moving from one stablecoin to another? Honestly, HBD presents a lot of risks. We all know what happened to a supposed algorithmic stablecoin. We're also going all in on hive, increasing the risk by not being diversified.
I believe this is a mistake and we'll end up losing money. I can see that most SPS whales support it and it's going to pass. With that in mind, I do see an upside in the DAO having more Hive and powering up, as long as it is used well. I sincerely hope that the DAO will actively vote for all posts on Splinterlands (as long as they aren't spam or anything bad) and only vote for posts on Splinterlands. At least, this way, some of the lost value will go back to Splinterlands players.
It's so worthwhile .I am your proponent
We are for it! Votes incoming!
Excellent job! F.I.R.E. SQUAD Supports this proposal
This is not going to be read by anyone.
But this has to be the worst DAO proposal yet. Desperate attempts by both sides to get money.
Trading ETH for Hive isnt going to stand the test of time IMHO. My guess is ETH goes up in price while HIVE doesnt go up as much. Long term is not 'value transfer' its value reduction @clayboyn
I feel like I've missed out on something. What is the DHF proposal? I didn't get anything from "This proposal presents a clear path to receiving the wanted funding while satisfying both sides in the equation."
I think this is an extremely well crafted proposition. Congrats to all involved.
Voting yes with my bully 17,000 SPS. ^_^
When the initial proposal for financing was presented, I received a downvote for expressing my opinion, which at the time was favorable and supportive of what was requested, meaning I agree with the financing. But as I thought at that moment, Splinterlands would certainly have a better performance in another chain, which is a window of opportunity for those developing the project, not only with this project, but with the wide possibility of creation based on what already exists. exists, then I am punished. Who understands.
Yes, I vote in favor of the agreement.
I am for this, I will be voting for it.
This I can vote
Wish we could lose all the HBD instead of USDT , but fair... need to be considerate about everything.